Maybe in our modern day pact with the devil we have traded our soul for power, that is, power to delude others, even ourselves in the process. This giving away of our soul is easy for us to do because the soul is not seen by us as having the power to connect with the absolute while being attached to the flesh. Modern Buddhists even goes so far as to proclaim there is no soul much like the annihilationists did during the time of the Buddha.
But this attitude does not free us from the penalty of denying a soul if there is one which has access to higher kinds of knowledge which go beyond the terrestrial man. It is almost a modern fad to assume that we humans are soulless. This belief is usually regarded as nihilistic insofar as man is considered to be only the sum of his anatomical parts. Even his thoughts are considered to be an epiphenomenon of the brain.
If one is so naïve as to believe this malarkey then they find themselves moving towards a dead end when it comes to their lives. This dead end is absolute finality, nothing goes beyond it. There is no hope of a future. Even the belief that life is an illusion still depends upon the reality of something that is not illusory providing the ‘fairy dust’, so to speak, for the illusion. While an artist can make a monster out of clay, fundamentally, this monster is still just clay. The assumption that an illusion or appearance is based on other illusions and appearances, all the way down, is naïve.
Let us believe that duality/duplicity is an illusion. What is the origin of this duality depends upon the one (eka) which is not an illusion. In other words, the source of the illusion is not itself another illusion. There is not an essential scarecrowness in the scarecrow that is in the cornfield. The Buddha told Sakkaka there is no soul in form, or the same, appearance. Sakkaka believed otherwise. He believed the basis of form is the soul including the rest of the aggregates.
Our release from illusion does not depend on illusion but upon the intuition or gnosis of what is not illusory, or the same, what is unthinkable (thinking being a congealing of spirit or the One Mind). Some Zen students are aware of this but, unfortunately, the bulk of students are not. They are engaged in sitting meditation marathons which don't really help at all.
Personally, I have no plans to reform Zen Buddhism although it needs to be reformed. It is, inevitably, going to collapse by its own accumulation of errors. In that regard, the religious mind has no place in modern culture and with its loss comes also the loss of the intuitive path which Zen Buddhism represents. Among other things, we have lost our common sense to a kind of intellectual irrationality where abstract ideas and ideological arguments substitute for reality.
Thanks yeti. That's a very nice gatha. I like the last stanza; reminded me of the Bodhisattvic vow on refraining from teaching emptiness to the untrained.
I think ego-death can have deleterious effects on those not ready. I've seen it happen in the psychedelic community; and then after the experience, seeing those walls come up, even thicker than before, to insulate their psyche from the terror of having their self be deconstructed into its constituent, dependently-originated, parts and then *poof* emptiness.
In some cases, you can even sense a bit of arrogance, thinking that they've conquered something -another experience to add to their spiritual resume.
Anyway, I think now in the Dharma-ending age where demonic views proliferate, it's becoming increasingly difficult to discuss the Dharma or to maintain a healthy Sangha, even a virtual one. All too often, I see discussions degrading into mindless bickering, name-calling, posturing, etc.
Posted by: DANIEL J PAVLOVSKY | February 22, 2021 at 11:42 PM
Daniel:
Thanks for your comments. I too am very grateful for the Zennist who has given so much of his time to make this blog possible. Where else in the contemporary Zen universe would it be possible to have a discussion about soul theory without it quickly being shut down for violating the rules of some "broad minded" Buddhist moderators.
I thought you might enjoy this, it is the death gatha of Hui Neng, the Sixth Patriarch:
Nothing that exists is true
don't think what you see it true
if you think you see the true
what you see is surely false
if you want to find the true
the mind free of the false is true
unless your mind forsakes the false
nothing is true where true can't be
Living things know how to move
lifeless things stay still
those who practice staying still
resemble motionless lifeless things
to see what truly doesn't move
in movement find what doesn't move
what doesn't move is what doesn't move
lifeless things have no buddha seeds
If you can perceive its attributes
the ultimate truth doesn't move
if you can realize this
you will see how reality works
all you students of the Way
be relentless and concentrate
don't stand at the entrance of the Mahayana
clinging to views about birth and death.
If those before you are ready
tell them the Buddha's teaching
and if they aren't truly ready
bow and tell them to be good
there's nothing to argue about in this teaching
those who argue lose sight of the way
clinging to blindness arguing about teachings
they lead their nature into birth and death"
Posted by: n. yeti | February 21, 2021 at 08:13 AM
"but this is very different than the imaginary construct of an invisible being-identity that maintains continuity throughout the three times and all the co-arising experiences to be imputed as a soul or self that has, essentially, an eternal ego identity -- an idea which totally contradicts the Buddhadharma."
I think you nailed it here. That dependently-originated emptiness of Self and Phenomenon, the former of which would include all the various ego-like constructions like "I", "Soul", etc. (Diamond Sutra helped me immensely in understanding this.)
Dwelling on this is not a good idea either, as n. yeti said in his last sentence. In my understanding, that's one of the main messages to take away from the Lankavatara Sutra -i.e. going beyond the discursive mind and it's need to conceptualize, ideate through the five skhandas, "congealing" Spirit into this tapioca pudding of gross, unrefined materialism. (Is that not the very crux of our human condition?)
Consequently, it's why I have so much appreciation for the Sutras and for those who can expound these most subtle aspects of the Buddhadharma. Words seem to forsake the experience and the beauty contained therein, yet without the words, concepts, etc., there'd be no Buddhadharma, no sutras, etc. Reminds of that mnemonic in the Diamond Sutra:
“What do you think, Subhuti? Does a bodhisattva create a serene and beautiful Buddha field?”
“No, World-Honored One. Why? To create a serene and beautiful Buddha field is not in fact creating a serene and beautiful Buddha field. That is why it is called creating a serene and beautiful Buddha field.”
Anyway, most people will inevitably oscillate between the two extreme of beings and non-being, the latter of which gives rise to the more nihilistic perspectives (i.e. no soul).
Posted by: DANIEL J PAVLOVSKY | February 19, 2021 at 06:59 PM
Well like everything else the idea of a soul is dependent. Of course it can be understood that the "soul" or self referred to here is a supernal one, transcendent of ordinary experience. However, the presupposition of the sentient is that the passing flux of experience imputes a soul, which is a delusion. This seems rather evident because there is no connection between the past and present experience (migrating thus through the six realms) except the co-arising consciousness of the experiences of birth and death. If it can be conceived of, it is not the soul, just as mind cannot truly conceive of itself. Resting in its nature, perhaps can be said to be the discovery of the soul or self, but this is very different than the imaginary construct of an invisible being-identity that maintains continuity throughout the three times and all the co-arising experiences to be imputed as a soul or self that has, essentially, an eternal ego identity -- an idea which totally contradicts the Buddhadharma.
Buddhism is distinct in that the knowledge or cognition of the causes and conditions that give rise to the illusion simultaneously dispel the illusion. In other words the dreamer knows it is dreaming, and the idea of a ego-soul is yet another of those dreams which, through the infinite capacity to actualize cognition (which is not separate from the object of cognition), properly investigated, leads to an awareness of that which is not arisen -- and therefore non-perishing (deathless) which could arguably be called a soul or souls. But as such conceptual knowledge itself is not ultimately liberating, the Buddhist, in my opinion, should not dwell on this idea but let go of it.
Posted by: n. yeti | February 19, 2021 at 09:09 AM