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September 14, 2016

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brain nerd wrote:

"@bodhiratna, I don't believe in all this fanciful super-late Mahayana material. Show me from the Pali suttas that Buddha taught koans."

I don't have to show you anything. You sound like a demonic monk who believes in no-self.

And no one cares if you don't believe the Flower Sermon. Once again, your opinion means nothing. Though Most importantly for you is to stop tell lies about the Buddha did not teach the Koan.

Look at all those suffering people in Liberia, you could end up there in your next rebirth (or worst, in hell) since you slandered the Dharma. That is Buddhist justice in the making:)

Bodhiratna

@bodhiratna, I don't believe in all this fanciful super-late Mahayana material. Show me from the Pali suttas that Buddha taught koans.

brain nerd wrote:

"@bodhiratna, The flower sermon is merely a sectarian myth like almost all Mahayana material is."


First you said Buddha did not teach the Kung-an which I proved you wrong. Now you said it is just a myth?

You are either a demon who is intentionally trying to subvert the Dharma or you are just in one big bag of ignoramus!

Even animals are aware of the Deathless Principle, the same one the Buddha demonstrates when he picks up the flower and smiles.

Stop telling fake dharma to new Buddhists who visit this site. That brings you nothing but bad future rebirth.

Liberia might be a new place for your future rebirth, :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMwI5unlK9M

Bodhiratna

@bodhiratna, The flower sermon is merely a sectarian myth like almost all Mahayana material is.

brainerd typed:

"@bodhiratna, Your insults are unnecessary, and just make you look ignorant. Besides, Buddha didn't teach koans. "

Have you ever heard of the Flower Sermon? go read it!
http://www.katinkahesselink.net/tibet/flower-sermon.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flower_Sermon

You see, Buddha is the Foremost Kung-an master:)
Obviously the ignorant one is you!

I am not sure of the reason why Christian like yourself hanging around here. If you don't understand Koan, then choose a lesser path. Maybe gain some merit for better future rebirth when you can have better karma for understanding True Dharma.


brainerd typed:
"I have serious reservations on their usefullness because they are primarily used to sacralize nonsensr and antilogic. If all Zen adds to regular vanilla Buddhism from the Pali suttas is a way to sacralize nonsense in the form of koans with absurd nihilist answers, then I question the usefulness of Zen."


Who said Koan is easy?
As I have mentioned master Lin-chi said only First-class fellow understand the Koan's Dark Meaning:)

Real Buddhism, btw, doesn't cater to your opinion. If you don't like the food, go eat somewhere else.


brainerd typed:
"Please, show me where Buddha teaches with an absurd method like this in the Pali suttas. See, koans come from the Taoist side of Zen, but those who made them up where by no means as wise of Taoists as Lao Tzu; that's the problem."


Are you kidding? just because you can't understand the Dark Meaning when Buddha picks up the flower and smiles does not mean it is absurd.

Whoever says Koan come from the Taoist side of Zen is a big retard. The Flower Sermon demonstrates the Buddha taught the first and foremost Koan.

Bodhiratna

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