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November 30, 2014

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My thanks to you both. To Eidolon, I think your observation also applies to even the Pali teachings...pity they did not have digital archives back then, so we are relying upon the recitations of monks as buddha's words four centuries after they were spoken. Is this not so?

Mr. Yeti, the Sutra was translated into English only once, in 1972, as Mr. Zennist describes, and it has been out of print for years. Much of what it contains is also part of the Digha Nikayas, I believe, but can not remember where it is all found. Based on this paucity of availability, it's difficult to understand why the Zennist thinks it's such an important part of the Buddhist Canon - you will find it hardly referred to anywhere else on the internet. And to be clear - Shakyamuni Buddha himself never actually preached this Sutra. It is centuries later than his death. It is someone else's imaginative reconstruction of the Buddha's teaching. Perhaps the Zennist would care to weigh in on these quibbles of mine?

The Sutra I used is:

The Sutra on the Foundation of the Buddhist Order (Catusparisatsutra) : Relating the Events from the Bodhisattva's Enlightenment up to the Conversion of Upatisya (Sariputra) and Kolita (Maudgalyayana)
Kloppenborg, Ria ( translator )

Technical question...are there copies of this sutra readily available in English? Perhaps I'm mistaken but I think this sutra was found fairly recently in a cave in kashmir or Afghanistan, those documents being translated only minimally to Mandarin thus far? Just curious because it is not one I knew about.

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