Q: I am relatively new to Buddhism. I think I have been studying it for a year or more reading as many Sutras as I can. One thing surprises me about Buddhism on the Internet are the various forums. You’d think Buddhism was a bunch of different Buddhisms. I have been arguing with someone about Stephen Batchelor’s Buddhism which I think is materialism. I don’t see how that is Buddhism, but this guy claims it is. I know your interest in Batchelor and materialism creeping into Buddhism. What do you do in situations like this?
A: Forums and those who run them are sectarian—cross the line and you’re out. From a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the most sectarian, these forum rate about 7 to 8. Their sectarian bent is towards a materialist interpretation of Buddhism. Face to face they will deny it. They will try to turn the tables. But when compared with The Zennist they hardly touch on the esoteric. There is really no conversation going on that could be considered edifying—and certainly nothing to do with exploring Buddhist ideas such as the place of the five skandhas and the self. The flavor is not at all academic, in other words. Thinking minds are not allowed. My advice? You can’t reason with them.
Q: I can see why you decided to do a blog. Do you think blogging is a better idea than starting a Buddhist chat room (I was thinking about it)?
A: Blogging is not easy. You have to be committed and do a heck of a lot of reading and thinking. In my case, I wanted to share my spiritual experiences and let people know that real Buddhism is alive and well—and you too can do it. The mystical experiences that I went through were amazing, simply amazing. I still get excited reading the sermons of a Zen master. Just to know that there were others like you is a joy. I want everyone to have these experiences—and work hard at trying to accomplish this. Unfortunately, the beginner has to do it the hard way. I can’t do it.
Q: What do you mean by the hard way?
A: The hard way is really enjoying and being captivated by Buddhism. Being also a detective working night and day trying to solve the world’s greatest mystery. You have to give it your all. The easy—and of course the unfruitful way—is just to sit in zazen and expect your teacher to make you a hundred year old sage. It ain’t gonna happen. Let me tell you about this guy who studied with me for a year. His name was Tony. I can’t remember the religion he was into before he met me, but he told me they had this sacred book that only the elect could see which had all the secrets in it. So what did Tony do?. He broke into the temple one night, got the book, copied it, and put it back into the temple. Sweet! Now that is the kind of enthusiasm and ingenuity it takes to understand Buddhism.
Q: Wow! Yes, I can see that it also requires a special kind of interest and courage. I think I suffer a lot from the romantic delusion that there are these old Zen masters in China living in caves who are Buddhas . I just need to learn Chinese and go there. I really want to do it. Is that wrong?
A: Yes and no. It is somewhat like looking for gold knowing nothing about it—never having even seen it. Yeah, its in California. Yeah, you are enthusiastic to start digging, but so what? But you first have to get a proper ‘gold education’ and the right tools. Then you can go.
Q: So who are all these people on the Buddhist forums?
A: Half are nerds, I suspect, who have really bad social skills; who suffer from the delusion that Buddhism can be understood by nerd intelligence. The other half are non-nerds who believe they might learn Buddhism, then eventually realize the nerdiness of the forum and leave for the own mental health. You can see why these types like Stephen Batchelor who is a Brit nerd. His wife, too, is a nerd—a French nerd.
Q: Were you ever a nerd?
A: In high school I went out with the “A” cheerleader Shirley several times. The Homecoming Queen had a crush on me. I was thought to have “bedroom eyes.” I had lots of friends. I was a maverick—not a nerd. In those days our nerds were called dorks. To not be a nerd only required of a guy to be athletic. Our high school, in the early 1960s, was one of the most advanced in maintaining a high degree of physical fitness. Our coach (Chicago Bears 1935) made us lift weights, do push ups—you name it. If a nerd could handle that everyday, they lost their dorkiness. The were at least muscular nerds that we could respect. When I started Zen, I had no problem doing zazen for hours. I was tough. But what really helped me is I wanted to know the secret of Zen that, seemed to me, to be hidden in koans. Zazen was too easy and boring. I loved koans and the fact that they said to me, “Dude, you ain’t gonna figure me out.” Zen is very positive and only for healthy, happy people. Unfortunately, it has become something like an out patient clinic for depressed people run by nerds. Yes, maybe you should go to China or South Korea which I hear is great. You might get lucky and meet that one Buddhist as I did, who will give you, so to speak, the map to the gold fields.
Q: Are you suggesting that Zen is dead in the U.S.?
A: Maybe some of it is. I would say the Soto type of Zen that stresses zazen is all but dead. To the extent that Zen does not emphasize realizing our true nature, which is pure Mind, it is dying. Consider all the Zen literature that speaks about Mind, in some form or other, it is quite astonishing to go into a Zen temple and hear nothing about it.